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                  GOD’S POWER

                                               Book written by Pastor Thurman Scrivner

Stepping into the Realm of Faith

Well, I’d like to tell you a little bit about how I stepped over into this realm. I know God gives all of us different gifts.  I was raised in a Southern Baptist Church. Nine months before I was born, my mother carried me to church. I was in church all of my life. Every time the door was opened, I went to church. I loved the Lord with all my heart. I was raised up in one of the best Christian homes that you can imagine.

That’s the thing I appreciate  what  Brother  Bill  Gothard  is  doing. He’s  training  the families how to walk with God, and this is a beautiful thing.  Because to have a great father and a great mother is the best thing that  anybody can do. If there is anything I want to emphasize to you today, it’s that every man should love his wife with all his heart and be an example of God to  his  wife  and  his  children. Every woman should be an example of God to their children, so their children will grow up believing that Mother and Daddy believe what they say and do what they say. Their children will grow up in a stable home, so they will get to the point where they will be able to hear God’s voice, and they will become wonderful young men and women of the Lord and walk holy before Him. And I had that  kind of home, and I’m grateful for that home that I was raised up in, very grateful.

But being a Southern Baptist walking in obedience to God’s Word, this next month in June, 27 years ago, was the transformation that took place in my life. In June, 1977, I had a 2-year old son and a brand new baby girl. I was in there studying. I was a Sunday school teacher.  I was deacon in a Baptist Church in Lewisville, Texas.  I had never heard the authoritative voice of  God in my life. I had  never  heard  anybody  say  that  they  had  heard  that.  We don’t  seem  to talk about those things.  But I’ve now realized that God is a God that speaks, and HE speaks to many of us.

Because  as  I’ve  talked  to  people,  I’ve  heard  many, many  people  tell  me  that  they’ve heard the authoritative voice of God.  Even this morning, when I was over there when this young lady was trying to make me look a little better for the cameras, if that’s possible; there were only two  young  ladies  in  there.    I  asked  them,  “Have  either  one  of  you  young  ladies  ever  heard  the voice  of  God?”    And  one  of  them  immediately  said,  “Yes  Sir,  I’ve  heard  it  twice.”    The  other young lady was startled.  She said, “I’ve never heard it.”  I said, “Isn’t that amazing, in a room with  two  people,  one  of  you  have  heard  the  authoritative  voice  of  God.”    I  said,  “Do  you remember  when  it  happened?”    She  said,  “Exactly!”   She  remembered  how  old  she  was, everything.

I  said,  “Honey,  that’s  what  happened  to  me  27  years  ago.    I  was  a  grown  man.  I  was  a teacher of the Word of  God.   I  was  a deacon in  a church.   I loved  God  with all my heart, but  I had  never  heard  anybody  say  they  had  heard  God’s  voice.    But  that  night,  when  I  was  sitting there studying, preparing to teach a Sunday school lesson, and it was in Deuteronomy Chapter 6 Verse 4.”

You  never  forget  those  times  when  God  speaks  to  you.    I  was  sitting  there,  and  all  of  a sudden the King said, “Son, pay attention.  I have a message for  you in the next few verses.”   I heard that so clear and so authoritatively that I turned to see who walked into the room—nobody there.  Then I thought about what had been said to me, so I knew it was God.  So I continued to read, and what HE was telling me is what every man and woman needs to hear.  HE’s giving you an  example  in  Deuteronomy  Chapter  6.    HE’s  telling you  exactly  what  you  need  to  do,  if  you want your children to walk with God.

I  got  a  complete  new  revelation  right  there.    Although  I  was  a  deacon  and  a  Sunday school teacher, I didn’t pray with my wife at home.  I mean we did that in church!  I didn’t read the Word of God and teach my children the Word of God at home.  We did that in church.  But that  night,  I  begin  to  read  the  Word  of  God  to  my  children  and  to  my  wife,  and  pray  over  my wife  and  children  every  night.    And  I  did  that  the rest  of  my  life.    I’m  still  doing  that.    That forever changed my life!  But  I had heard this voice.  But  I was afraid to tell anybody about it, because I had never heard anybody else say they had heard it.

Two years later, I was down in Houston, on Monday morning at nine o’clock.  I was an engineer  working  for  a  large  corporation.    I  built buildings,  designed  equipment,  and  all  those kinds of things.  And I’m out there one morning, and as I got off an airplane, I’m headed to a job site.  And I think, “Well, I’ll go by the corporate office, since I was a regional engineer, and I’ll do my paperwork while I’m here in Houston at the corporate office.”

But I forgot it.  I went right on out to the job site.  I’m out there underneath about 20,000 pounds of steel, and all of a sudden, I hear this voice.  HE said, “Son!” I said, “Yes, Lord.”  HE said, “You forgot to do your paperwork this morning.”  I said, “Lord, I did.”  But I said, “Lord, I just  lack  fifteen  minutes.    I’ll  run  right  back  over  there  and  do  it.”    HE  said,  “No,  Son.    I  want you to go do it right now.”  I said, “Okay.”

So  I laid down everything  I had.   I  crawled out from under there, stood up and took the 2nd  step,  and  the  supporting  structure  holding  20,000 pounds  of  steel  exploded!    And  20,000 pounds of steel was laying flat on the  ground where  I was!   In my trembling and fear,  I looked up, and I said, “Lord, that verse in 1 Corinthians 6:19 has just taken on an entirely new revelation to me:  I am not my own.  I’m bought with a price.  I belong to You, and I really am not mine.”  I said, “Lord, I don’t know why you saved my life, but I am so appreciative and so grateful that You did.”  I said, “Father, from this moment on, I will do anything you tell me to do.  I will go anywhere  you tell me to go.   I don’t care what it is.  Because if You hadn’t spoken to me right there, I would have been killed.”

Little  did  I  know  what  the  Lord  had  planned  for  me.    HE  began  to  speak  to  me  on  a regular basis.  About every year or every two years, I begin to hear His voice.  HE began to train me  in  faith—what  faith  was.    I  had  not  a  clue  what faith  was.    I  just  didn’t  know.    If  you  had asked  me,  I  would  have  said,  “Sure,  I  know  what  faith  is.”    I  didn’t  know  the  first  thing  about faith.  But, HE began to explain to me what faith was.  HE began to teach me what healing was.

I  stepped  into  a  realm  in  our  Southern  Baptist  Churches  that  was  a  little  bit  unique  to what anything I’d ever heard.  But God came to me one night, and HE said, “Son, I have trained you where I want you to be.  I want you to lay down that Southern Baptist Quarterly, and I want you to start teaching just My Word in that Baptist Church.”  I said, “Lord, I’ll do it!”  But I said, “Lord, if I do what You tell me to do, some of those folks are going to think I’m crazy.  Because what You have shown me is so foreign to what I  have ever learned in church, I’m going to ask You  to  confirm  what  I  teach  from  Your  Word  with  signs  and  miracles  and  wonders  following, Lord, so they will know that this is the truth.”

I  begin  to  teach  in  a  Bible  study  class.    I  made  the  announcement  to  the  Pastor.    I  told him,  I  said,  “I’m  going  to  start  a  unique  class.    The  Lord  inspired  me.”    I  didn’t  tell  him  God spoke to me in a clear, authoritative voice, because I didn’t think he would be willing to receive that.  So anyway,  I just told him, “God spoke to  me.  HE inspired me to  start teaching just His Word  in  a  class,  and  so  I’m  going  to  start  a  unique  class.”    So  he  said,  “Okay.”    He  made  an announcement.  He told the church what I was going to do.  Ten to 20 people started coming to that class.  I started teaching the Word of God with what God had been revealing to me, and HE began to start doing mighty things.

The First Miracle

One of the  first awesome things the  Lord did, a  young couple, they had  a  young son by the name of Philip Anthony Wrenn.  He was 11 years old.  They came to my class, and they were awestruck  at  what  they  had  heard  me  teach  from  God’s  Word.    I  remember  her  saying, “Thurman,  I’ve  been  in  church  20  years,  and  I’ve  never  heard  God’s  Word  spoken  like  this.”  Her husband said, “I’ve never heard these things either,” but said, “We need a miracle.”  I said, “What  do  you  need?”    You  know,  I’ve  come  to  realize  there’s  not  many  people  in  the  church today that don’t need a miracle or a healing.  That’s just, that’s just the way it is.

So anyway I said, “What do you need?”  She said “Our son Philip here, he’s had warts all over his body, since he was three years old.”  He had them in his eyes, in his nose, in his mouth, all  over  his  neck,  his  chin,  all  over  the  palms  of both  hands,  and  on  the  backs  of  his  hands.  They’d  burned  two  big  rows  of  warts  off  the  back  of  his  right  hand.    Big  old  scars  were  there where  they  burned  them  off,  and  all  the  warts  came right  back  in  the  scars.    She  said,  “We’ve done  everything.    We’ve  prayed.    We’ve  taken  him  to  the  doctor.    We’ve  done  everything—nothing works.”

I said, “Well, first of all, you didn’t do anything in faith.”  So I spent 2 ½ hours, maybe three, with that couple explaining to them what God had revealed to me was faith, making sure that their sins are confessed.

I learned that when you live in any kind of sin, even the sin of unbelief, God will not hear your prayer.  HE says HE will not.  HE says, “You must walk holy before me, without holiness no man shall see the Lord” (Hebrews 12:14).  So we’ve got a real goal.  An accomplishment there to  meet  is  to  walk  holy  before  our  King.    That’s  what  HE  requires,  and  it  is  definitely  an achievable goal.

After teaching that couple the Word of God for 2 ½ hours or so that Sunday afternoon, I knelt in the floor with them.  I said, “Now then, I’ve realized that God is a faith God, and I used to not understand what that means.  But since HE is a faith God, I have to come to Him with His Word,  because  this  Book  is  faith.    This  Word  is  what  HE  calls  the  trust  in  His  Word  or  faith.  Without the Word of God, it is impossible to please the King.  I’m going to turn in the Word of God now.”

After  I  had  built  Philip’s  and  his  Mother  and  Dad’s  faith  for  2  ½  hours,  I  turned  to  the little boy, 11 years old, with his body covered with warts now and these scars since he was three years  old.    I  said,  “Son,  do  you  believe  that  Jesus  that  I  read  about  in  this  Book  can  take  those warts  and  scars  off  your  body?”    That  little  boy  said,  “Mr.  Scrivner,  after  what  I’ve  heard  you talk  to  us  about  this  afternoon  out  of  God’s  Word, I  believe  HE  can  do  anything.”    Now  that’s what  God’s  looking  for  right  there—believing  that  HE  can  do  anything.    I  said,  “Son,  HE  can, and  HE  can  ‘do  exceedingly  abundantly  above  all  we  can  even  think  or  imagine,’  according  to Ephesians 3:20.”  But, I said, “We’ve cut the King very short.”

I said, “Now then, I’m going to take a promise in God’s Word.  In Matthew 18:19, Jesus clearly  said  in  Matthew  18:19, ‘Again  I  tell  you,  That  if  two  of  you  on  earth  agree  about  any thing you ask Me for, it shall be done for you by my Father which is in heaven.’”  Isn’t that an awesome statement from the King?  “Again, I tell you, That if two of you on earth agree about any thing you ask Me for, it shall be done for you by my Father which is in heaven.”

A blank check—I had never used that blank check.  But that day, I knelt in the floor with that family around the little table there in their living room; and on my knees with them on their knees, I raised my hands and asked the Father in the name of Jesus on behalf of that promise to take all of Philip Anthony Wrenn’s warts and scars off.  And I thanked the Lord for doing it.

I stood up, and his mother said, “When are they going to come off?”  I said, “That’s the only  thing  God  don’t  tell  me  is  when.”    God  does  two  things  that  I  have  learned  in  the  healing realm.  One of them is miracles.  That means they could all fall right off now, but that may not happen.    But  the  other  one  is  healing,  and  HE  promises  to  heal.    It  takes  time  for  healing.    HE will take them off.  I guarantee you on the Word of the Living God that in a few days to a few weeks  at  best,  Philip  will  not  have  a  wart  or  a  scar  on  his  body,  because  Jesus  made  us  the promise  in  His  Word.”    That’s  the  first  time  I  stepped  out  with  that  bold,  authoritative  “I guarantee God’s Word.”  But I did it that day.

I walked across the street to the Baptist Church where I was attending.  The next morning when  Philip’s  mother  woke  up,  she  run  in  to  check  Philip,  and  all  the  warts  on  the  ends  of  his fingers  and  up  under  his  fingernails  were  already  completely  gone  overnight.    She  was awestruck!

I told  her  when  I  left  there  that  afternoon,  “Ma’am,  I’m  going  to guarantee  you something else.  When  I leave here this  afternoon, the enemy, which is the devil, he’s  going to send  one  of  his  fellows  in,  and  he’s  going  to  put  a  thought  in  your  mind.    He’s  going  to  say, ‘Now you don’t really think that just because this old gray-headed guy came over here, and knelt on the floor, and spoke a few words into the atmosphere, that these warts and scars are going to come  off  of  Philip’s  body.    Remember,  you  took  him to  the  doctor,  and  the  doctor  burned  all those warts off the back of his right hand, and they came back in the scars.  So what makes you think that those warts and scars are going to come off now, because that man prayed?’”

I  said,  “Don’t  you  believe  that!    You  believe  God’s  Word.    When  you  hear  that  voice from the devil come into your mind, you take this Word, and you open it up and you say, ‘Mister devil, let me show you what Jesus said.’  You read Matthew 18:19 to the devil.”  But she didn’t have to do that; but I have taught that to many people since, and many of them have had to.

But  that  morning  when  his  warts  began  to  come  off, three  weeks  later,  and  this  is  so unfortunate  that  you  don’t  get  to  see  a  really  hysterical  mother  in  a  Baptist  Church  very  often.  Well,  let  me  tell  you,  three  weeks  later  when  Mama walked  into  church,  she  was  charismatic.  (Laughter)  She was jumping and praising and screaming.  She said, “Thurman look, look!  I’ve been in church all my life; I’ve never seen nothing like this!  Look, Philip does not have a wart on  his  body  nowhere!    Every  one  of  them  are  gone!   Look,  the  only  things  left  those  two  big scars on the back of his right hand!”

I said, “Mama, don’t stop believing God.  Continue to worship Him and praise Him, and I  guarantee  you  next  week  when  you  come  in,  Philip  won’t  have  any scars.”    Next  Sunday morning  when  she  walked  in,  she  said,  “Thurman,  look.”    Philip  Anthony  Wrenn  had  no  warts and  no  scars.    He  was  completely  delivered.    (Applause)    I  think  our  God  deserves  a  hand  for something like that!  Praise the Lord!  I guarantee you—HE is an awesome, mighty God!

But that step put me into a new realm of faith.  I saw God do something I guaranteed HE said HE would do.  And when I had learned HE said, “Whenever you ask Me for any thing, you must ask Me in faith, nothing wavering.”  HE said, “If you waver,” in James Chapter 1 Verses 6 and  7.    HE  said, “If  you  don’tbelieve  I  can  do  what  I  said  I  could  do  in  this  Book.”  HE  said, “You’re double minded and you’re unstable, and let not that person think they will receive any thing from Me.”

I’ve  come  to  realize  that’s  why  I  used  to  not  get  any  prayers  answered.    Because  if  I prayed, I’d say, “Oh, God, if it be your will.”  HE said, “I’m not an ‘if it be My will’ God.”  HE said, “I’m a faith God.”  HE said, “You come to Me and ask Me for something in this Book, after what I’ve given you and the promises I’ve made you in here.  You come to me, and you ask me what you want according to this Book, after you walk holy with your sins confessed.  And then, I will do it for you—no questions asked.  You just do what I tell you to do.”

So  I  started  praying  like  that  for  people.    As  I  began  to  see  the  Lord  do  these  mighty wonderful things, five years ago, I stepped out into a new realm.  You don’t see many Southern Baptist deacons start a Healing School.  But I started a Healing School in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.    I  might  have  15-20  people  there  on  a  Saturday.    I  started  one  the  2nd  Saturday  of every month.

I  had  seen  by  this  time  so  many  hundreds  of  people healed.    I  had  gone  to  people’s homes,  one-on-one.    I’d  go  out  and  talk  to  people.   I  don’t  know  how  they  heard  about  me;  I guess word of mouth.  That’s the only thing I know, or God moved on their heart.  Because, and it was unfortunate; most of them I didn’t know.

But  somebody  would  call  and  say,  “Thurman,  I’m  so-and-so.    We  heard  that  you  teach people  how  to  be  healed.    Would  you  come  to  our  home?    I’ve  got  a  son  that’s  sick,  or  a  wife that’s  sick,  or  whatever.”    And  I’d  say,  “Sure.”    So  I  started  going,  and  for  many  years,  I  went one-on-one.  I taught one person at a time, and I saw God do awesome miracles in the realms of healing.

One  day  I  thought,  Lord,  “I’m  cutting  all  these  people  short.    I  need  to  get  in  there  and start  a  Healing  School.    People  need  to  know  what  You’ve  taught  me.”    And  so  I  didn’t advertise,  I just said, “Lord I’m going to start a Healing School.  I’ll ask You to bring whoever you want to.”

And so it started out with 10-15 people.  Then it got up to where there are 20, 30, 40, or 50.    Even  up  to  now  then  some  of  my  Healing  Schools,  I  have  a  100  there.    But  that’s  a  big Healing School for me, a 100 people on a Saturday.  I have people come from all over the world to  my  Healing  School.    It’s  amazing.    I’ve  had  people  come  from  London,  from  Connecticut, from California, from Florida, all over the United States; but I never have a very big crowd—50 to a 100.  But God does awesome things in the realms of healing.

This last December the 26th, I just came off of a 2-week fast.  I told the Lord, “Lord, I am fed up with playing church.  I want to see You do something mighty.  I want You to increase my Healing School.  I want You to teach the Body of Christ.  I want You to show them what You’ve shown  me.    I  want  You  to  do  great  and  mighty  things.    Lord,  in  the  church,  we  have  so  many people  that  are  sick  and  afflicted;  and  we  should  not  be  there  with  these  promises  that  You’ve shown  me.    I  want  to  see  You  do  great  and  mighty  things.”    The  very  next  morning,  the  Lord changed me from one radio station to six.

Soon I began teaching in my church.  By this time, I had started my own ministry.  I had a Sunday service, every Sunday.  I went from a Sunday service to two Bible teachings a week on Tuesday and Thursday nights from 7-9 PM.  I try to teach two hours on Tuesday and Thursday nights.    And  we  usually  start  pretty  close  to  7  PM,  and  sometimes  we  get  through  at  9:30  PM, 10:30 PM, 11:30 PM, or 12:30 AM, when the last person goes home after the last question.  The latest I have ever been there is 4 AM.

That’s what happens, as people get healed and delivered.  I have learned that people are hungry  for  God’s  Word.    God’s  given  me  some  great  and  awesome  revelations,  which  I  am  so grateful for, and to see Him do all these wonderful things.  There are several people here today, that I have already met that have come from one of my Healing Schools that have been healed.  There are several of those people here.

The Greatest Test

But anyway as I started doing this, I’m going to tell you that the greatest test that I ever encountered happened to me 2 ½ years ago.  This is my ultimate test of faith.  God put me to the test  in  the  most  awesome  way  to  bring  me,  so  that  I  could  stand  before  you  today  and  tell  you and share with you His great and awesome power.  But it was absolutely my greatest test of faith.

On October the 13th, 2001, I had been married to one woman for 41 ½ years.  One family, one  son,  one  daughter,  and  we  had  a  blessed  life.   My  wife  had  never  spent  a  minute  in  the hospital; she was 60 years old.  I had only been in the hospital one time.  We have had a blessed life.    The  Lord  has  really  blessed  us,  because  we’ve  been  obedient  to  serve  Him.    We  go  to church,  we tithed,  and we trained our  children how to walk  with God.  We had no problems in our  home,  no  problems  with  our  children—they  were  wonderful  children.    My  daughter  got married when she was about 20.  Ten months later, she had a little baby girl. The little girl was three years old, and my daughter was 24 years old.

My  wife  and  my  daughter  got  up  on  Saturday  morning on  October  13th,  and  started  to Brownwood, Texas, to see some of our friends and relatives for a little birthday party.  I had no idea that morning at 6 AM, when my wife and daughter left, that morning would be the last day I would ever see them alive.

But at eight o’clock that morning, our enemy, the devil, stopped my wife’s heart driving 70  miles  an  hour;  and  she  veered  into  the  left  lane  of  an  oncoming  truck  and  hit  an  oncoming truck head-on at 70 miles an hour.  It tore my wife’s body all to pieces.  It also tore my 24-year old  daughter’s  body  all  to  pieces.    And  they  both  were  DOA  right  there.    My  little  3-year  old granddaughter was strapped in the center of the back.  A beautiful little 6-year old girl, who we had raised in our home, which was like a granddaughter to me, she was also strapped in the back.

I  was  teaching  a  Healing  School  in  a  Baptist  church  in  Hurst,  Texas,  that  Saturday.    A police officer  walked in  the back door.   I saw him back there,  and  I  walked back there.   I said, “Sir, can I help you?”  We had just started.  He said, “Are you Thurman Scrivner?”  I said, “Yes Sir.”  He said, “Do you have a wife named Betty?”  I said, “Yes Sir.”  He said, “Do you have a daughter named  Amanda?”   I said,  “Yes Sir.”   He said,  “Sir, there’s been an  accident.”    I  said, “Are they injured?”  He said, “Sir, they’re both deceased.”  I said, “How about the two babies?”  He said, “They care-flighted them to Cook’s Medical Center in Fort Worth, and both of them are in very critical condition.”  I said, “Thank you, Sir.”

I  remembered  what  the  Book  of  Job  said  when  the  enemy  was  allowed  to  attack  his home.    It  said, “And  Job  worshipped  the  Lord”  (Job  1:20).    So  I  didn’t  fall  apart.    I  turned around, and I walked up to the front, realizing I had just had the most severe attack of the enemy that  I’d  ever  had  in  my  life.    I  begin  to  tell  the congregation  that  was  there  that  day  what  had happened.    And  I  said,  “Now  I  want  us  to  stop  and  worship  the  King.”    So  we  did.    We worshipped Him, and we praised Him for His promises.

And I said, “Lord, I need you to speak to me.  I need you to tell me what’s going on.”  I guess you can understand that, can’t you?  Here I had been walking with Him, seeing Him heal bodies,  do  great  and  mighty  things;  and  now  then,  they  just  tell  me  my  wife  and  daughter  are dead, and my grandbaby and a little girl like a grandbaby are probably not going to live.

We don’t understand these kinds of things when they happen, but HE wouldn’t speak to me.    I  didn't  understand  why.    I  now  do,  but  at  that  time,  I  did  not.    After  I  worshipped  and praised  the  King  for  a  few  minutes,  probably  15  or 20  minutes,  I  told  them,  “We  are  going  to close the Healing School.  I’m going to load up my stuff, and I’m going to get my son; and I’m going to go to Cook’s Medical Center, and I’m going to get those two babies healed.”

I went home, got my son. I told him that Mama and sister were in heaven with the Lord.  I said, “Now son, we got a battle on our hands.  We’re going to find out if we believe this Book.” 

I drove down to Cook’s Medical Center and walked in and met a social worker, and she said, “Sir, I’ve got to tell you that Katlynn cannot live.”  I said, “Oh, yeah, honey, she’s going to live.”  She said, “Sir, she cannot live.”  I said, “What’s wrong with her?”  She said, “It’s obvious that something cut her seat belt, and she was slammed into the seat in front of her, when the two vehicles ran head-on.”  She said, “Sir, her skull is crushed in five places.  Her face is tore all to pieces.  We don't even know what all’s wrong with her in her chest.  She’s bleeding everywhere.  Her brain stem is severed.  Her eyes are disconnected from her brain.  Her right knee is crushed, and her left leg is broken in two places.”  Now you're going to find out if you’re a man of faith.

I  walked  into  that  hospital  room  with  this  magnificent  Bible  in  my  hand.    I  walked  up there and looked at that little 3-year-old girl.  Blood was running out her eyes, her ears, her nose, her mouth, everything.  I could not even tell it was my granddaughter.  It was a blob of flesh.

I opened this Book to one promise.  I stood there.  I said, “Father, You said in John 15:7, ‘If  your  words  remain  in  me,  and  I  remain  in  you,  I  can  ask  You  anything,  and  you'll  do  it  for me.’  You said, ‘I got to believe with no doubt in my heart’” (Mark 11:23).  I said, “Father, I ask You to raise up my grandbaby.   I ask You to make her completely well.  I ask You to heal that ace, and I don’t want a scar on it.  You said, ‘I can ask anything, if I believe You, You will do it’ (John  14:13-14).    I  ask  You  to  raise  her  up  and  make  her  whole.    I ask  You  to  let  her  run  and play.  I ask You to reconnect her brain stem and her eyes and make her completely well.  And I want to thank You for it.”

And  then  I  turned  to  every  doctor,  and  I  said,  “Iguarantee  on  the  Word  of  the  Living God,  you  will  see  my  God  do  a  miracle  and  raise  this  little  girl  up,  and  she  will  run  and  play again.  Because HE made me the promises, and I am not taking nothing but what God said for an answer.”  I sat there beside that bed for the next 10 hours and worshipped and praised the King for His promises.

In the process of that, I walked over into the next room where little Kelly Ringstaff was.  She was a little daughter that my wife and my daughter had kept for six years since she was born.  Her mother was a traveling lady, and she couldn’t keep her baby, so my wife and daughter kept her.  So she became like a granddaughter to me.  I walked over there, and I looked at little Kelly, six years old.  Her head had busted open right above her eyebrows, laid back about a third of the way back.  Her seat belt had held, but it had crushed both of her pelvic.  They said, “If she lives, she’ll have brain damage, and it’ll be a minimum of 2 ½ to three months before she will be able to stand with a walker.

Again, I opened this magnificent Book that we take to church with us, and I opened it to John 16:23 and 24.  I said, “Father, Jesus made me a promise right there.  HE said, ‘Before now, before this day, you have asked Me nothing.  But, from this day forth, you can ask the Father in My name anything, and He’ll do it for you.  So therefore, ask anything in My name, and I will do it for you, so your joy will be full.’”  I said, “Lord, with promises like that in Your Word in John 16:23 and 24, I’m going to ask You, Father, in the name of Jesus to raise up Kelly Ringstaff.  I’m going to ask you to do such a mighty miracle of healing on that little girl that everybody in this hospital will know that You showed up.” 

I turned to all the doctors and nurses and everybody, and I said, “I guarantee you on the Word  of  the  Living  God,  you’re  going  to  see  my  God do  the  greatest  miracle  on  this  little  girl you’ve ever seen.  Because HE made me the promises in His Word, and I believe those promises with no doubt in my heart.”  They looked at me like a crazy guy in denial.

In one week—one week, Kelly Ringstaff was out of ICU.  One more week, she’s out of the hospital walking with a walker, and three days later, she’s thrown the walker away, and she’s back  in  school  running  and  playing.    Now  who  could have  possibly  done  that?    (Applause)  Nobody but our Jesus.  Nobody but our Jesus could have done that.

The enemy had deceived me far too long.  Now I’m beginning to understand God's Word means exactly what it says.  If HE says, “Don’t sin” (John 8:11).  That’s what HE meant—don’t sin.    If  HE  says, “Walk  holy  before  Me”  (1  Peter  1:16).    That’s  what  HE  meant.    HE  said, “If you’ll  walk  holy  before  Me,  then  come  and  ask  Me  for  anything,  and  I’ll  do  it  for  you”  (John 15:7).  That’s what HE meant.  So I had now stepped into this realm, and I saw little Kelly raised up and out of the hospital and back in school in 2 ½ weeks.

That made such a tremendous impact on her mother.  As I would be coming home in the afternoon, I’d be so pumped up, I guess you’d say of the wonderful things that Jesus did.  I got to see Him do so many things in the workplace.    I  mean  I’ve had so many  wonderful  experiences with  God,  and  I’ve  prayed  for  so  many  people  in  the  workplace.    And  I  have  seen  Him  do awesome miracles of healing and restoration into the 1,000’s now.  It’s just so wonderful to see the King do these mighty things.

So  I’d  come  in,  and  Dawn  would  be  there  with  my  wife  picking  up  her  daughter  or something.    I’d  be  telling  my  wife,  and  I’d  say,  “Honey,  I’ve  got  to tell  you  what  Jesus  did today.”  And when  I  would tell some of these stories, Dawn, she  was a typical Christian; she’d just roll her eyes and say, “Oh, another one of those wild stories of Thurman’s.”  No, those are not  wild  stories.    These  stories  I  tell  you  are  all  true;  they’re  all  documented.    These  are  real things that Jesus does.  HE’s the King of the Universe.

I  had  no  understanding  of  that  for  years.    But  I’m now  beginning  to  understand  Who  I serve.  Not Who I serve, but Who we serve.  We serve the King of the Universe, and we have cut him far short; because we didn’t believe these mighty promises.  We’d say, “Lord, if it be Your will.”  HE said, “If it be My will, don’t move My hand.”  HE said, “I am not an ‘If it be My will’ God.    I  am  a  faith  God.”    HE  said, “You  come  to  Me  with  My  promises  and  tell  Me  what  you want, and if you are walking in obedience to My Word, I’ll do it for you.  But you must believe Me with no doubt in your heart” (Mark 11:23).

So  little  Kelly,  she’s  out  of  the  hospital.    She’s running  and  playing,  back  in  school.  Three months later, I go over to a birthday party, and she’s there, of course, and I’m asking her how she’s doing.  She said, “Oh, Mr. Thurman, I’m doing great, but I hate these big old scars.”  I said, “What scars?”  She pulled her bangs up where I could see.  I said, “Wow, you do have two ig scars on  your forehead.”  She said, “I hate those.”  That’s where her  head had been torn all open.

I  said,  “Jesus  doesn’t  want  those  scars  on  your  forehead  either,  honey.    But  HE  cannot take them off until a man of faith prays a prayer of faith; and then and only then, can HE do it.  HE has limited Himself on this earth to His Word, and HE said, ‘If we don’t ask, HE cannot do it.’  We must ask in faith, and in John 14:13 and 14, Jesus gave me a double whammy back-to-back:    HE  said, ‘Ask  the  Father  in  My  name  anything  you  want,  and  I’ll  do  it  for  you;  so therefore  ask  anything  you  want,  and  I  will  do  it  for  you.’”    So  I  said,  “John  14:13  and  14,  on behalf of those two verses, Father,  I  ask  you to  remove the scars on Kelly  Ringstaff’s head.”   I said, “Thank You, Lord, it’s done.”  Thirty days later, those scars are completely gone on Kelly Ringstaff’s  forehead!    (Applause)    We  serve  an  awesome  Jesus,  folks!    We  serve  an  awesome Jesus!

Katlynn’s Situation & God’s Intervention

So  we  go  back  to  the  story  of  my  granddaughter:    She’s  laying  there  in  ICU  at  Cook’s Medical  Center  in  Fort  Worth;  and  the  2nd  Monday  morning,  we  go  in  on  Saturday,  the  2ndMonday  morning,  Dr.  Marks  which  is  head  of  Neurology  at  Cook’s  Medical  Center  called  a meeting  with  us  and  said,  “I  do  not  know  how  this  little  girl  has  lived  a  week.”    But  he  said, “This week, we’re going to pull the tubes out of her.  And when we pull the tubes out of her, we got the tubes in her that are causing her to breathe and everything.  When we pull the tubes out of her, she will die, and you do not want to resuscitate her.”

I said, “Sir, she’s not going to die.”  He said, “Sir, I’ve just done the second MRI on this little  girl,  and  there’s  nothing  attached  to  her  brain—nothing.”    I  said,  “How  about  her  eyes?”  He said, “They’re disconnected, too.”  I said, “Is there anything wrong with her eyes?”  He said, “No, there’s nothing wrong with her eyes, but the little cords that go from the eyes to the brain are  disconnected.”    So  he  said,  “There’s  nothing  to  tell  her  to  see;  nothing  to  tell  her  to  cough; nothing to tell her to move, or to breathe, or nothing.   So when we pull the breathing machine, she will die.”

I  said,  “Oh,  no,  she  won’t.”    I  said,  “The  Word  of God  says  something  different,  Dr. Marks.”  I said, “Are you a Christian?”  He said, “No, I’m a Jew.”  I said, “Well good, my Jesus was  a  Jew,  and  you're  going  to  get  to  see  the  best Jewish  physician  do  the  best  work  you  have ever seen—I guarantee it!”  (Applause)

How  many  of  you  know  we  have  the  best  physician  in the  universe,  and  His  name  is Jesus?    (Applause)    HE’s  awesome!    But  we  have  to  believe  Him,  and  that’s  where  I  had  not been doing for the first part of my life.  I didn’t know the promises of God.

And so we went out of that room that day on a Monday morning.  And the next Thursday morning,  Dr.  Davis,  she’s  a  precious  Christian  lady;  she  walked  into  Katlynn’s  room  that morning, and she said, “Mr. Scrivner, you are the only living human being I have ever met in my life that absolutely refuses to accept reality.”

I said, “Ma'am, you think my little granddaughter laying there is reality, don’t you?”  She said,  “Well,  of  course.”    I  said,  “Ma’am,  you  have trained  yourself  with  your  five  physical senses.    But  I’ve  trained  myself  with  the  faith  realm,  the  Word  of  God.    It  goes  a  step  beyond into the supernatural, and it brings God on the scene.   I’m  going to guaranteeyou, Ma’am, on the Word of the  Living  God of John 15:7.  When  you and all these other doctors pull the tubes out of my grandbaby, she’s not only going to breathe on her own, but she's going to breathe over that machine on her own, and she’s going to cough.”

Now then, when you go to Mark 11:23, Jesus is speaking, and Jesus clearly said, “If you can believe with no doubt in your heart, whatever you say with your mouth, if you believe it with your heart, you will have whatsoever you say with your mouth.”  That’s written in Mark 11:23.

So  since  I  knew  that  promise,  I  said,  “I  guarantee  you  on  the  Word  of  the  Living  God that when ya’ll pull all them tubes out of my grandbaby, she will not only live; she will breathe over  the  machine  on  her  own,  and  she  will  cough.”   And  all  those  doctors  knowing,  trained  by their  five  physical  senses,  knowing  that  they  had  just  done  a  2nd  MRI,  and  there’s  nothing attached  to  her  brain,  they  knew  I  was  crazy!    So  they  just  hung  their  heads  and  pulled  all  the tubes.  And when they pulled all the tubes, she breathed two points over the machine on her own and  started  coughing.    (Applause)    Our  Jesus,  HE  is  an  awesome,  awesome  God!    HE  is awesome!

So  over  the  next  few  days,  she  got  stronger.    She  breathed  more;  she  breathed  better.  Within  two  weeks  time, after  they  pulled  the  tubes,  the  next Sunday  night  had  been  two  weeks and one day.

Now  a  little  face  that  was  totally  destroyed,  that was  unrecognizable,  and  that  was  tore and cut  all to pieces:    I  had asked the  Father in the name of Jesus to restore that beautiful little face according to those promises, quoting them to Him.  And every day, every day I took a list of these promises, and I gave them to my son-in-law and to my son.  And I said, “Guys, I want ya’ll to read the Word of God over her every day.  I mean just take this sheet of paper with all these magnificent promises and read them over her every day.  When ya’ll are gone and I’m here, I'll read  them,  and  I'll  praise  and  worship  the  King  forHis  promises  that  are  always  ‘Yes’  and ‘Amen’” (2 Corinthians 1:20).

For  no  matter  how  many  promises  God’s  made  in  His  Word to  you,  if  you’re  in  Christ, ALL of His promises to us the Body of Christ are “Yes” and “Amen” every time.  The answer is never “NO” from God to us, to His children.  If we’re walking in obedience to His Word with all our sins confessed, ALL of His promises are “Yes” to His children every time.

So as I read these over her by that second Sunday evening, I left that Sunday afternoon; she  had  one  great  big  red  deal  left  over  one  eye.   Every  cut  and  bruise  on  her  face  had  been healed  without  a  scar.    And  when  I  walked  back  in  Monday  afternoon,  that  little  face  was  as beautiful as it was before the accident, laying there without a single scar or a single mark on that beautiful little face.  So as I continued to sit there and praise the King and worship Him over her, she got better and stronger, and we came out of ICU.

The doctor, when they pulled the tubes, he said, “Sir, we need to do surgery on that right knee.”  I told him, “No Sir, we’re not going to do surgery on the right knee.”  He said, “Sir, the knee cap is crushed.”  He said, “She will never walk again.”  I said, “Oh, yes, she will.”  I said, “Sir, I’ve stepped into a realm of faith.  God made me a promise, and I'm trusting Him and Him alone—no one else.”  He said, “I've got to do surgery.”  I said, “No Sir, no surgery on her knee.”  He  said,  “Can  I  at  least  put  a  cast  on  the  leg  to  hold  it  straight?”    Her  daddy  said,  “Thurman, please let him put a cast on it.”  I said, “Okay, put a cast on it.”

They put a cast on her leg.  It healed supernaturally.  They took the cast off, and without a single  surgery  on  that  little  girl,  we  went  home  after  30  days  in  ICU.    I  took  her  out,  and  the doctor said, “I do not understand how this little girl has lived.”  I said, “Sir, she’s lived, because I believe this Book, the Word of my God.  His name is Jesus.”

He  said,  “Well,  there’s  something  there,  something’s  happened;  I  just  don’t  understand.  But  take  a  wheelchair,  and  we’ll  make  her  a  special  one,  because  she’ll,  a  motorized  one, because she’ll never walk.”  I said, “I do not receive that curse.  That little girl will walk, she will run, she will play.”  He said, “Sir, that’s impossible.”  I said, “Sir, you’re going by what you see and not the Word.”  So I took the Word of God with my grandbaby.  I took her home.  I would not  put  her  in  a  wheelchair.    I  carried  her.    I  would  not  roll  her  out  of  that  hospital  in a wheelchair.  I would not show unbelief.  I carried her.

I took her home.  I sat her down in the bed.  And I’d sit her up and say, “Katlynn honey, in the name of Jesus, I command your body to be strong and for you to sit up.”  And I’d turn her loose, and she’d fall down.  I’d pick her back up.  I mean when you started training your children to walk, the first time you picked them up and stood them up and said, “Walk.”  You turned them loose, and they fell down.  Did you stop?  No!  I picked mine up again, and I said, “In the name of Jesus.”  And I did that over and over and over, until she could sit up in the bed.

Then  I  took  her  out  of  the  bed  and  stood  her  up,  and  I  said,  “In  the  name  of  Jesus,  I command your little body to be strong where you can stand, in the name of Jesus.”  And I’d turn her loose, and she’d fall on the floor.  I did that over and over, until she could stand.  And then I commanded her to walk, and I did that over and over and over, until she could walk.

She’s  now  walking.    She  was  doing  these,  but  she’s still  blind.    Her  eyes  were disconnected  from  her  brain.    I  took  her  back  on  December  30,  2001,  to  Dr.  Marks,  and  he looked  at  her.    And  when  he  saw  her  walking  down  that  corridor  holding  my  finger,  he  come grabbed her up.  He said, “Would you look at this?!”  And he picked her up and took her in his office.  He’s beginning to check her and examine her.  And I said, “Dr. Marks, what do you think about my Jesus now?”  He said, “Sir, all I got to say to you is somebody a whole lot bigger than me put this little girl back together.”

But  January  the  6th,  she  was  still  blind.    We  had  just  built  a  brand  new  Baptist  Church.  That  church  where  we  had  been  going  there  in  Justin.    At  that  time,  I  had  not  started  my  own ministry.   I was still teaching and  going to Sunday  school  and everything  in a normal Southern Baptist Church there in Justin, Texas.  We didn’t even have a pastor at that time.  We had a fine young  man  there  in  charge  of  the  youth  department  there,  Derrick  Draper.    He’s  a  fine  young man,  great  example  for  the  young  people,  a  great  man  of  God.    He  was  all  we  had  as  a  pastor.  We had an interim pastor from the seminary come over to preach for us on Sunday.

That Sunday morning, January 6, 2002, we opened that sanctuary brand new.  We had the first service in that place.  And then I asked anybody that would, there was 400 people there that day; and I asked anybody that would that believed that God would open my grandbaby’s eyes.  I invited them that afternoon at 2 PM, to come and pray with me and stand on God’s promises, so the King could reconnect my grandbaby’s eyes to her brain.  And for a Southern Baptist church, no offence, folks, there was about 30 out of 400 showed up.  And that’s pretty good.  (Laughter)  That’s pretty good, because we’ve not been trained right.

We’re just like I was the first 45 years of my life.  I didn’t believe God could do all these wonderful things.  I had never seen Him do anything.  But now I do believe HE will, and I know HE will.  And so  I told them that day, “If  you believe God will do what HE says HE will do, I want  you to come and pray with me.  If  you don't believe HE will, then  I don't want  you there; because I don’t want unbelievers there.”  Unbelief is what keeps God’s power from flowing.

So that afternoon, 30 people came, and we met, and about 10 people from other churches that I had invited, friends of mine.  We put my little blind granddaughter, which could now walk out  in  the  middle  of  a  big  circle  in  that  brand-new  sanctuary.    And  we  prayed,  stood  on  God’s mighty  promises  for  two  solid  hours.    We  prayed  on our  face  before  our  King.    We  took  her home.  She still couldn’t see a thing.

But three weeks later, Katlynn and I were upstairs sitting there playing, and she had these little  stands  that’s  got  these  little  plastic  different  size  donuts  on  it.   Some  of  you’ll  know  what I’m talking about for children.  And she would get these things, and before she’d feel around to find the little stand, and she’d put the donut on there.  All of a sudden while we’re sitting there, I picked up one of the little donuts and was going to take it off.  And I dropped it, and it rolled off over here, and it fell over.  She just reached right over there and got it!  And then she put it rightback on the stand, and I thought, “Boy, that's unique!”

And so I took the donut back off, and I moved the stand over to another place.  And then I laid the little donut over there, and  I said, “Katlynn honey,  get the red donut that Granddaddy just laid down and put it back on the stand.”  She reached right over out of all them and got the red one and put it right on the stand, and Granddaddy went berserk!!!  (Laughter & Applause)  I mean I jumped up and down and begin to praise and worship the King.

See what the Lord says – Hebrews 10:35 and 36.  I’d learned those scriptures well.  HE says, “Do  not  cast  away  your  confidence,  but  you  have  need  of  patience,  that,  after  you  have done the will of God, you will receive the promise.”  This is where I used to miss it.  I’d think, you  know  when  Jesus  did  things  in  the  New  Testament;  most  of  those  were  miracles  or instantaneous healings.  But now I’ve realized that HE does miracles, and that’s one of the gifts, the  nine  gifts  of  the  Spirit—the  gift  of  miracles.   But  the  gift  of  healing  is  also  usually  done instantaneously.    But  God  promised  to  heal  every  one  of  us  every  time,  if  we  will  walk  in obedience  to  His  Word.    And  when  I  learned  that  principle  and  learned  how  to  stand  on  His Word, I have seen the King heal awesome things, to do mighty things.  HE’s done those things for me.

Then after we got her eyes back, we still got a problem.  When we go home, the doctor tells  me,  “We  do  not  understand  why  this  little  valve  in  Katlynn’s  throat  does  not  work,  but  it does  not  work.”    So  he  said,  “Don’t  feed  her  anything  by  mouth,  because  if  you  do,  it’ll  run directly  in  her  lungs  and  kill  her.”    Now  if  a  doctor  tells  you  that,  what  are  you  going  to  do?  You’re  going  to  do  exactly  what  I  did.    You’re  going  to  believe  him,  and  you’re  not  going  to feed her; because you don’t want to kill your grandbaby.

So I go home, and there is a magnificent promise in this Book, Mark 11:24.  Mark 11:24, the King says:  “Whatever you desire, when you pray, believe you have received it, and it shall be yours.”  Now is that an awesome statement from our King, or is that an awesome statement?  I used to not believe these promises; but now  I am beginning to do all I can to believe it, when the  King  makes  these  awesome  statements  that  they’re  for  me  and  that  they  will  work  for  me!  And  so  I  take  that  verse,  and  I  said,  “Lord,  I  desire  that  the  valve  in  my  grandbaby’s  throat works.  So I am asking You, Father, in Jesus’ name, to fix it and let it work.  Lord, thank You for it.”

So  for  the  rest  of  the  two  months,  I  would  praise  and  worship  and  thank  Him  that  the valve was working.  We’d take her back to the doctor.  The doctor said, “Bring her back in two months, and we’ll check it.”  So I brought her back in two months, and he checked, and he said, “It  doesn’t  work.”    I  said,  “It  doesn’t  work.    I  don’t  understand  this.”    But  he  said,  “It  doesn’t work.”

So  I  go  home,  and  I  open  my  Bible,  and  I  look  at  that  verse  again—Mark  11:24.   Jesus clearly said, “Whatever you desire, when you pray, believe you have received it, and it shall be yours.”  I said “Lord, I don’t understand how I could possibly mess that up.  You made that so simple.”    So  I  said,  “Lord,  I  ask  you  to  fix  the  valve  in  her  throat.”    And  I’d  praise  Him  and worship Him for two months, and we’d take her back to the doctor, and it wouldn’t work.  We go through this scenario for 10 months.  Every two months for 10 months, and that valve does not work.

After the 10th month,  I come home, and  I literally lock myself up with this Book; and I said, “Lord, You said in  Psalm 66:18, You said ‘You do not hear the prayer of a sinner.’  You said in Romans 14:23, ‘Anything I do that’s not of faith is sin.’  So Lord, I’ve got to have sinned somewhere and made a mistake, otherwise this valve would be working.  Father, in the name of Jesus, would you please show me what I’ve done wrong?”

I  get  this  Book  out  now.    I  diligently  spend  all  this  time  over  the  next  few  days;  I  am meditating on this Word.  I am concentrating on this verse, Mark 11:24. It’s hard to believe that a grown man as educated as I am, has to meditate on one verse for two weeks.  But finally after two weeks, I got revelation.  The Lord says, “To them thatdiligently seek me.If you’ll dig into my Word like you’re mining for silver and gold, then I will reveal myself to you” (Proverbs 2:4-5).

After two weeks, I read that again, “Whatever you desire...” Stop!  I desire that the valve in my grandbaby’s throat work, Lord.  HE said, “Then when you pray, believe you’ve received, and it shall be yours.  Not two months later, when you take her to the doctor!”  So I said, “Lord, I  have  sinned.    I  didn’t  believe  your  Word.    I  ask You,  Father,  to  forgive  me  for  my  sin  of unbelief.    I  repent.    Now  Father,  on  behalf  of  Mark  11:24,  I  desire  the  valve  work  in  my grandbaby’s throat.  Thank You, Father.  It’s done.”

I walk across the street to her house.  I tell her Daddy, “Toby, God’s waiting on you and me.”  He said, “What do you mean?”  I said, “The valve works in her throat this morning.”  He said, “Thurman, we just came back from the doctor two weeks ago, and it didn’t work!”  I said, “I  know,  it  didn’t  work  two  weeks  ago.    It  didn’t  work  earlier  this  morning,  but  right  now  it works!”  He said, “How  do  you know it works?”   I said, “Because the Word says it does.”  He said, “What are you telling me?”  I said, “God’s waiting on you and me.”  “What am I supposed to do?,” he says.  I said, “You’re supposed to feed her.”

If we believe this Book, we have to act on this Book, because God says, “Faith without works is dead (James 2:17).  You must believe Me with no doubt in your heart, or you’re double minded and unstable, and I won’t do a thing for you (James 1:6-7).”  I said, “Toby, God’s Word cannot fail.  Feed her.”  He said, “Thurman, you’re crazy!”

I said, “Toby, did the doctors say that she’d die?”  He said, “Yes.”  I said, “Did she die?”  He said, “No.”   I said, “Did the doctors say that  she’d never breathe?”  He said, “Yes.”   I said, “Is  she  breathing?”    He  said,  “Yes.”    I  said,  “Did the  doctor  say  she’d  never  walk?”    He  said, “Yes.”  I said, “Is she walking?”  He said, “Running and playing.”  I said, “The doctor said she’d never see.  Are her eyes back?”  He said, “Yes.”

I  said,  “Don’t  you  think  it’s  time  that  we  believe God’s  Word  all  the  way?”    He  said, “Okay, what do you want me to do?”  I said, “You got anything in here for her to eat?”  He said, “I got a little can of applesauce.”  I said, “Open it.  Put it in a bowl.”  He said, “I got a little bottle of juice here.”  I said, “Set it down there.”

I  called  Katlynn:    I  said,  “Katlynn  honey.”    She  was  in  the  bedroom  playing.    I  said, “Katlynn honey, come in here.”  Now see, we had been feeding her through a plug in her tummy for 10 months.  Every morning, noon, and night, I’d plug a little pump that they gave us with a little deal into her stomach, feed a liquid diet directly into her stomach.  I’d been feeding her likethat for 10 months.  I said, “Come in here, Katlynn honey.  Sit down in that chair.  Sit up there and eat that applesauce for Granddaddy.”

How  many  of  you  know  that’s  going  to  be  one  of  the greatest  tests  you  ever  went through?  That’s my only grandbaby at the time, and the daughter of mine that brought her into the world is in eternity with God.  And I’m either going to trust this Book, and it’s going to work for me; or I’m a fool, and I’m going to kill her—one of the two.

She  sat  at  that  table.    She  ate  that  entire  bowl  of  applesauce.    She  drank  that  bottle  of juice,  and  she  jumped  down  and  ran  and  played.    And  from  that  day  to  this,  that  valve  has

worked  perfect!    (Applause)    The  little  girl  is  six  years  old  now.    The  other  afternoon  when  I came  home  about  five  o’clock,  she  was  out  there  in the  driveway  on  her  bicycle,  riding  her bicycle all over the place!

Walking by Faith

Let me tell you, I used to think I knew what faith was, but I didn’t have a clue.  And then when  Mr.  Gothard  asked  me  to  speak  at  this  seminar,  and  I  think  about  this  magnificent statement.    I  have  had  the  privilege  to  step  over  into  the  realm  of  faith  just  a  little.    When  our King  makes  us  a  statement  like  HE  did  in  Ephesians 3:20.    And  I  know  many  of  you  that  are Christians, and especially Baptist Christians, we’re pretty familiar with the Word, because we’re Word people.

But  I  realize  most  of  you  probably  are  just  like  I was.    I  really  didn’t  believe  these promises.  But when I realized if I believe them, our King would show up for me.  I realize that when  HE  makes  these  awesome  statements  like  Ephesians  3:20:   “I  can  do  exceedingly abundantly  above  all  you  can  even  think  or  imagine,  according  to  the  power  that  worketh  in you.”  Where is that power?  It’s in you.  It’s in me.  And Who is that power?  It’s Christ.

“This is the mystery that was hidden before the foundations of the world, Christ in you, the  hope  of  glory”  (Colossians  1:27).   Colossians  2:3  says “All  the  secrets  of  the  universe  are hidden in Christ.”  If they’re all in Christ, and HE’s in you, then all you’ve got to do is learn how to pray in faith, and  you can tap into this awesome realm to see God do these great and mighty things that HE’s doing.

And I know that when God called me out as an engineer out of the workforce and began to reveal to me these mighty truths, as I would build and design equipment and buildings.  I first begin  to  learn  how  to  use  these  things  and  do  these  things  in  the  workplace.    I  would  ask  the Lord, as I would begin to see this.  I would ask Him for everything.  I mean they could give me a piece  of  equipment  or  something  somewhere  that  wouldn’t  work;  and  since  I  was  the  regional engineer, if nobody else could fix it, they would ask me to see if I could either get somebody to fix it or I could figure it out.

Well, every time without fail, I would always stop and pray.  People thought I was a little bit strange.  In the workplace, I’d say, “Guys, let’s stop.  I’m going to ask the Heavenly Father, in  the  name  of  Jesus,  to  give  me  revelation  and  wisdom  and  understanding  on  this  wiring diagram, so  I  can fix this problem.”  And without fail, HE always revealed to me how to do it, and I was always able to fix everything without fail.

After I begin to build buildings back in 1983, as I’m learning, just learning what faith is.  I’d not stepped into the realm of the healing ministry yet.  But I’m stepping into the realm of the world—the business world that I’m in.

In  1983,  our  Executive  VP  from  our  corporate  headquarters  from  Washington,  D.C., came down and gave me an impossible task.  On 15th day of May, 1983, he walked in and said, “Thurman, we need to renovate this 25,000 sf building, and we need to build, add 20,000 sf onto the back side of it.  We need it done as quickly as possible.”  I said, “Well, what is ‘As quick as possible?’”  He said, “We need to move into it by the last day of July.”

I said, “This is the 15th day of May, June, July, and you want to move in the last day of July?  You want me to renovate 25,000; you want me to add 20,000 to it?  Well, where’s all the plans and details?”  “Oh,” he said, “We don’t have those yet.  We’ll have those in a few days.  I got a floor plan that’ll be available tomorrow, and then I’ll next day express mail it down to you.  You take that to  DFW Airport, and see if they'll  give  you the okay to start.”   I said,  “Bill, (His name  was  Bill  also.)  DFW  Airport’s  not  going  to  give  me  okay  to  start  on  a  building,  a renovation, and an addition without at least six or eight sets of specs and drawings, and they’re going to need to review them for three to five weeks!”

He said, “Do what you can.”  I go home when he leaves, and I get down on my knees.  I said, “Lord, the task he just gave me is impossible.  No man can do this task, but, ‘With You all things are possible’ (Luke 1:37).  You said it in Your Word.  Father, in this case, I cannot find in Your Word where You said it is Your will for me to build a building in this length of time.  But You  did  say,  ‘Ask  anything,  and  if  I’d  believe,  You  would  do  it  (John  14:13-14).’”    So  I  said, “Father, in the name of Jesus, I ask You to give me the knowledge and the wisdom and give me the favor  with the airport and everyone, so  I can  get this building built for my  company.  They gave me $1.1 million to do it, and I ask You to let me come in under budget; and I'll always give You all the glory and the praise for doing it.  Thank You, Father, but it’s Your final decision, of course.”

And  so  I  got  up  that  next  morning  and  went  to  work.    I  walked  there  in  front  of  this 25,000  sf  building  I  was  looking  at.    At  seven  o'clock  in  the  morning,  I'm  just  standing  there looking.  And all of a sudden, an electrical truck pulls in from a big electrical contractor, and two electricians  get out and walk over, and he said,  “Are  you Mr. Scrivner?”   I said, “Yes sir.”  He said, “Our boss said to come out here.  You need some electrical work done.”  I said, “Who sent you?”    He  said,  “My  boss.”    I  said,  “Who  called  you?”    He  said,  “I  don’t  know.    My  boss  just

30said for us to come out here and see you, you needed some help.”  I looked up right there, and I said, “Lord, this is Your will.  I know this is a done deal.”

I  took  them  in  and  showed  them  where  I  wanted  to  start.    We  started  renovating  that building.    I  took,  that  morning,  I  took  that  one  set  of  floor  plans  I  had  over  to  Al  Magazine, which is in charge of airport planning and zoning at DFW Airport; and I said, “Al, this may be a little strange, but my company wants me to renovate this 25,000 and add 20,000 to it, and this is all  I  got  right  now.    What  are  the  chances  of  me  getting  started  and  getting  things  in  place  to make  this  come  to  pass?”    He  threw  the  drawings  out  there  and  looked  at  them,  and  he  said, “Aw, Thurman, your company’s a good company.  You're a good man.  I can trust you.  Soon as you get the drawings and details, bring them to us.  In the meantime, do what you want to do.”

I walked out that door totally dumbfounded.  I said, “Lord, You absolutely blow me away in  what  you  do  and  how  you  move  on  the  hearts  of  men,  when  we  act  in  faith.”    I  built  that building and finished it, and completely had it completely done and ready to move into six days before  the  end  of  July,  with  $100,000  left  over.    That  just  shows  you  what  God  will  do,  if  you believe Him!  (Applause)

So  see,  God  is  working  with  us  in  the  business  world.    HE’s  working  with  us  in  our health world.   But HE’s  our God, and  HE’s  a  faith God; and HE wants us to ask, believing, so HE can do these mighty things!

Well, as I saw the Lord do that, of course, I didn’t have much time at home during those 2 ½ months.  I was at work every day, except Sunday.  Sunday, I still took Sunday off.  I taught my  Sunday  school  class.    But  I  talked  about  Jesus  every  day,  every  day  in  the  workplace.    I talked  to  somebody,  led  people  to  Jesus  on  a  regular  basis;  but  I  ran  the  show,  and  we  got  that whole thing done.

At the end of that when Bill came down, Bill Martin was his name.  Bill came down from our Washington office and told me what he wanted me to do the 15th day of May, I said, “Bill, in June,  my  wife  and  I  have  planned  a  vacation  with  our  children.    If  I  start  this  massive  project, I’m  not  going  to  have  time  to  take  a  couple  weeks  of  vacation.”    He  said,  “No,  Thurman,  no vacation for you this summer.”  I said, “Okay, okay, I’ll do what you say.”

I  went  home,  broke  the  news  to  my  family:    “I'm  sorry,”  I  said,  “But  I  can't  take  a vacation this summer.  We’ll just have to wait until next summer.”  Well, at the end of that the project  finished,  and  the  day  I  got  it  finished,  he  called  me  and  said,  “Thurman,  you  got  that place in great shape.  I want to do something for you!”  I said, “Well, what’s that?”  He said, “I want  you  to  go  home  and  ask  your  wife  where  ya’ll  want  to  go  that  there’s  a  Marriott  Resort Hotel, anywhere in the United States of America, and we’re going to send you on a 2-week all-expense-paid vacation.”  I said, “Wow!”   

So  I  go  home  and  tell  my  wife.    I  said,  “Where  do  you  want  to  go?”    She  said,  “That’s simple, honey—Hawaii.”  (Laughter)  That’s simple for her, wasn’t it?  I said, “Honey, I’m not sure he meant all the way over there!”  She said, “Well, he said anywhere!”  (Laughter)  I said, “Well, you’re right.  That’s what he said!”

So I went back and called Mr. Martin, and I said, “Sir, you may not have meant Hawaii, but  that’s  where  my  wife  wants  to  go.”    He  said,  “Hawaii,  Thurman.    You  saved  us  $100,000 when  you  came  in,  and  you  saved  us  another  $30,000 in  rents.    The  least  I  can  do  is  send  you anywhere you want to go!”

The next day, Express  Mail, they had  all the tickets, everything laid out.  And they sent my  wife,  my  daughter,  my  son,  and  myself  on  a  2-week  all-expense-paid  vacation  to  all  the islands of Hawaii.  Come back and spent a few days in California, went to Disneyland, all those places.    And  the  next  summer,  my  daughter  said,  “Daddy,  when  are  you  going  to  work  hard again, so we get another long vacation?”  (Laughter & Applause)   

God Answers Prayers

But  is  our  God, “A  rewarder  of  them  who  diligently  seek  Him”  (Hebrews  11:6)?    Yes, HE  is!    And  HE’ll  pour  His  blessings  out  upon  you!   Now  then  as  I  begin  to  step  into  these realms of faith and begin to see God do all these mighty things; slowly but surely, I begin to start praying  for  people  in  the  workplace.    And  then  I  begin  to  understand,  as  I  started  praying  for people in the workplace.  And I started seeing God do little answers to my prayers.  I’d see Him meet somebody’s needs, or I’d see Him heal a headache or whatever.

But then one day,  I had a unique experience.   I come home on a Wednesday night from an out of town trip, and my wife said, “Honey, Ed Brock,” which was one of the men that went to church at Lakeland Baptist Church in Lewisville, Texas.  She said, “Ed has been to the doctor today, and I don't think he's doing very well.”  She said, “I think you better go see him tonight.”

So I jumped back in my pickup, and I drove up to Lewisville to the hospital, and I found his room.  And I went up and knocked on his door, and his lovely little wife, Ruthie, she came to the  door.    And  I  said,  “Ruthie,  how’s  Ed?”    She  said,  “Thurman,  he’s  no  good.    He's  been diagnosed.  They did surgery on him today.”  He happened to be 42  years old at the time.  She said, “They opened him up and looked inside of him, and he had Stage IV Lymphoma terminal cancer in every organ in his body.  He only has a few weeks left to live.  There's nothing they can do.”

 Just  as  clear  as  I  have  ever  heard  in  my  life,  I’m standing  within  three  feet  of  this precious  beautiful  lady,  wife  of  his,  and  I  hear  this  voice.    “Son,  tell  Ed  to  call  the  men  of  the church to pray over him, and I’ll heal him.”

Now as a Southern Baptist deacon that’d never seen anything like that, that put me to the test in the healing realm.  So for the first time in my life,  I go home.  I had God in a little bitty box.    I  remember  walking  down  that  corridor  of  that  hospital,  looking  up  saying,  “Lord,  You didn't hear what she said!  She said he has terminal cancer!”  Now I had God in a little teeny box about this big.  I didn’t realize who HE was.

I  said,  “Lord,  You  didn’t  understand.    You  didn’t  hear  what  she  said.    She  said  he  has terminal cancer!”  I can only see the King look down at me and say, “Son, if you ever get a hold of Who I am, you'll never doubt Me again.”  And unfortunately, that’s where I was.

But I went home that night, and for the first time in my life, I begin to do something I had never  done.    I  begin,  although  I  had  been  a  Sunday school  teacher  for  20+  years,  I  had  never

33looked up by topic under healing.  I begin to open the Bible.  I begin to find all kinds of promises God made for healing the Body of His Church.  Even the unbelievers!   I thought, “Lord, this is awesome!”

And  then  several  hours  later,  I  came  upon  a guarantee,  if  it’s  done  according  to  the Word, to heal every Christian every time, if they’ll do what the Word of God says.

James  5:14,  15,  and  16, the  King  makes  you  this  statement:   “Is  any  sick  among  you?”Who would that include?  That’s all of us.  “Any sick among you?  let him call for the elders of the  church;  let  them  anoint  him  with  oil,  And  the  prayer  of  faith.”    Not  an  unbelieving  prayer, but a, “Prayer of faith.”  Not a prayer, “If it be your will,” but a, “Prayer of faithshall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise you up; and if your sickness is due to a sin, I, the Lord, will forgiveyour  sin,  and  I  will  raise  you  up. Therefore,  the effectual  fervent  prayer  of  a  righteous  man availeth much.”

I thought, “Lord, that’s awesome!”  That is a guarantee from You to heal every one of us every time, if we’ll just believe You!

But then I heard for the first time in my life, I was fixing to step into a realm that was so supernatural.  I, for the first time in my life, heard the authoritative voice of our enemy.  And thisvoice said, “Oh, you’ve just read that before.  That’s just, that was in your subconscious.  When you were standing down there in front of that room, that was not really God that spoke to you.” I  mean  I’m  a  little  bit  confused  at  this  point.   

I went  to  bed  that  Wednesday  night thinking, I might be having a mental breakdown.  I didn't know what was happening.  I knew so little about the spirit world.  But Sunday morning when we woke up, I turned over and looked at my  wife,  and  I  said,  “Honey,  I've  got  to  tell  somebody.”    She  said,  “What?    What  have  you done?”    I  said,  “Honey,  I'm  hearing  God's  voice.”   She  said,  “Well,  my  goodness,  if  you’re hearing God’s voice, what did HE say?”  I said, “HE told me to tell Ed Brock to call the men of the church to pray over him, and HE’ll heal him.”

Thank God for good women!  She said, “Well, my goodness, Honey, if God told you to do  that,  what  are  we  waiting  for?    Let’s  go  tell  him!”    (Laughter)    And  I  thought,  here  she  is, she’s not heard it.  She only heard it from me.  This is the 4th time I’ve heard God speak to me, and that woman of mine’s got more faith than I do!  I said, “Lord, thank you for a good woman.”  So we went over to Ed and Ruthie Brock’s that Sunday afternoon after church.  The doctors had sent Ed home to die.

I said, “Ed, I have a word from God for you, and it’s written right here in James 5:14, 15, and 16.”  He said, “Well, what does it mean?”  I said, “Open your Bible.”  He opened his Bible, and we read that magnificent promise:  “Is any sick among you?  let him call for the elders of the church; let them anoint him with oil:  And pray the prayer of faith, and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise you up; and if you’ve committed a sin (or yoursickness is due to a sin), I, the Lord will forgive you, and I, the Lord, will heal you.”

He read that, and he said, “Thurman, I'm 42 years old.  I've been in church all my life.  I have never heard that verse preached on from the pulpit.  I’ve never heard it taught in a Sunday school class.  If a verse that powerful still works, somebody would have taught us that verse!”  I said,  “Maybe  they’re  like  me,  Ed.    Maybe  they  didn’t  know  it  was  in  there.    But  it’s  in  God’s Word.”  How many of you know if it’s written in God’s Word, it’s there for a purpose.

He said, “Thurman, I can’t believe it.”  I said, “Ed, let me tell you this.  What if I told you I heard God’s voice first, and HE told me to tell you to do this?”  He said, “You’re going to tell me  you heard  God’s voice?”   I said, “Yes Sir.”   He said, “Thurman,  you  must think I’m crazy.  I’ve  never  heard  anybody  say  they  heard  God’s  voice.”    I  said,  “Ed,  I  heard  it  in  front  of  your room, and HE told me to tell you to do what HE said in James 5:14.”  He said, “Well, Thurman, I just don’t believe that.”  So I prayed with him and went home.

A few days later, Ed Brock’s back in the hospital in Lewisville.  His lungs filling up and he’s  dying.    I  go  back  again,  and  I  open  this  book,  and  I  read  that  verse  to  him.    And  he  says, “Thurman, I want God’s will to be done, but I don’t know what it is.”

I thought, “Here I stand in front of this man with a blood covenant sealed in the blood of our  King,  and  HE  told  me  exactly  what  HE  would  do.   All  I’ve  got  to  do  is  pray  the  prayer  of faith, and you don't know what His will is?”  I say, “It’s right here.”  He says, “Thurman, I can’t believe it.”  See, that’s the problem.  We  can’t believe it.    It’s too wonderful to be true.  So he wouldn’t believe.  So I leave again.  They pump his lungs out, send him home; stays home a few days, comes back worse.  I go back.  I hear he’s back there again.

Bobby  Thompson  was  the  chairman  of  deacons  at  Lakeland  Baptist  Church  at  the  time, and I was getting ready to go visit Ed, when Jane called and said, “Betty, we hear Ed’s back in the hospital.”  She said, “Yes, and Thurman’s just fixing to go see him.”  She said, “Bobby wants to go with him.”  So he comes by my house, and we drove up there.

I walked in, and I opened this Bible again, and I said, “Ed, don’t die.  Do what God says, and HE’s going to heal you.”  He said, “Thurman, I just, I just don't know what God's will is.” 

I said, “Ed, I’m telling you that God’s will is this Book!  If HE said it, HE's ready to back it up, if we do it exactly like HE said!”  He said, “Thurman, I just can’t believe it.”

I said, “Ed, Romans 10:17 says, ‘Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word.’  When you get home, when you do get out of this hospital, when you get home this time, you open the Book to James 5:14, 15, and 16; and you read those three verses and don't read them silently.  It didn't say faith comes by reading.  It says faith comes by hearing!”

So I said, “Read the Word of God out loud until faith comes, and when it does, then you call  me,  and  I’ll  get  some  men  together.    And  we’ll  come  up,  and  we’ll  pray  for  you;  and I’m going  to  guarantee  you  God’s  going  to  heal  you,  because  HE  made  you  the  promise  in  His Word!”

We  walked  out  of  there,  and  Bobby  Thompson,  we  walked  out  to  my  pickup,  and  I leaned on the tailgate of  my pickup.    I was,  I  was just heartbroken.  He said, “Thurman,  you're completely convinced that if he does that, God’s going to heal him?”  I said, “Bobby, I know it, because it’s written in this Book!”  So  we prayed and  rebuked the  enemy  that was blinding his mind and asked the Lord to give him revelation and wisdom on the Word of God.

Monday  night  of  the  3rd  week,  I  walked  into  my  house  at  6  PM  in  the  afternoon.    My phone was ringing.   I reached up and  got it, and he said, “Thurman, it’s  Ed.   I’ve been  reading those verses over and over and over, and that's what they say.  I don't want to die!  I'm only 42 years old.  I want to live.  I’m too weak to call anybody but you.  You call some men and have them meet us up at the chapel at 7:00 o’clock, and I’ll have Ruthie drive me up there at 7 PM.”  I said, “I’ll do it.”

I  picked  up  my  list  of  deacons  at  Lakeland  Baptist Church,  and  I  said,  “Father,  in  the name of Jesus, give me the names of the men you want me to call.”  I went down through the list and probably called 6, 7, 8, maybe 10 of them.  I told each one of them, “You guys, read James 5:14, 15,  and 16, and call anybody else you want to and tell them to meet us at the chapel in an hour at 7 o'clock; and we're going to pray for Ed Brock tonight, and we’re going to expect Ed to get well.  Come expecting God to do what HE promised in His Word.”

That morning, I had stopped by and bought a bottle of olive oil—my first experience with healing.  When I get to the church at 7 PM, Ed’s there, and men start coming in.  I don't know if your  Baptist  church  or  whatever  kind  of  church  you go  to  is  like  mine.    But  it's  impossible  on Monday afternoon at 7 o'clock to get 28 men to come pray for a sick man with terminal cancer. But that’s how many showed up.  Twenty-eight men showed up that afternoon at 7 o'clock, and we walked in, and here I walk in with this little sack in my hand.

Ed  said,  “What  do  you  got  in  that  sack,  Thurman?”   I  said,  “A  bottle  of  olive  oil.”    He said, “Where’d you get it?”  I said, “At Tom Thumb.”  (Laughter)  He said, “You ever done this before?”    I  said,  “No.”    He  looked  at  me,  and  his  countenance  fell,  and  he  said,  “Oh,  great.  (Laughter)  Here  I am with a man with a bottle of oil from Tom Thumb, and  I’ve  got Stage  IV Lymphoma terminal cancer, and we think I'm going to get well.”

How much faith do you think there was in that room?—just almost zero.  But praise God, our  God  is  a  merciful  God.    I  said,  “Ed  I  don't  know  what  to  do,  other  than  just  sit  you  down right here in the middle of chapel.   I want  you to take off  your shirt, because  I'm  going to pour this oil on you and rub it in you.”

I  didn’t  know  what  to  do.    I’d  never  done  this.    (Laughter)    I  mean  you’ve  got  to  start somewhere, right?  (Laughter)  It’s a good thing he wasn’t a woman.  Huh?  (Laughter)  I guess I’d have told her to take her blouse off.  You know, who knows what I’d have done.  But it was a man, and so I took his shirt off of him.  I sat him right in the middle.  I poured that oil right downright behind his head, and it started running down his hair and his back, and I just started rubbing it in his back.  And I said, “Guys, just start praying!”

So guys prayed, we cried, we prayed.  Everybody prayed.  We prayed two hours.  At that time, that was the longest prayer meeting I’d ever been in my life.  In a Baptist Church, I’d never been in a prayer meeting more than a few minutes.  (Laughter)  You know, but this time, it was two hours, and our God heard our plea.

We left there now.  God did not do a miracle on Ed, because I’m going to tell you what.  If  HE  had  done  a  miracle  healing,  and  this  is  another  reason  God  doesn’t  do  so  many  miracles for us today.  Because I’m going to assure you if HE had done a miracle healing, and Ed Brock would  have  been  instantly  made  well  and  jumped  up  and  started  jumping  up  and  down,  God would have had 28 heart attacks to take  care of.   (Laughter)  Do  ya’ll know where  I’m coming from?    We  had  never  seen  God  do  a  healing  or  a  miracle  in  our  lives  in  that  Lakeland  Baptist Church in Lewisville, Texas—never.

But  Ed  begins  to  get  well.    He  begins  to  go;  he  gets  to  feeling  so  good  that  the  doctor said, “We don’t understand this, Mr. Brock, what’s wrong with you.  But this thing that was all over your body appears to be going away!  Maybe we ought to send you down to MD Anderson in Houston now, and let them give you some treatments.”  Before it was impossible, but now it’s

going away.  Isn’t that something?  Now that it’s going away, we’re still going to go and let the doctors help us, when God’s healing him.  It’s awesome how little faith we have in our God.

So Ed starts going down to MD Anderson.  The doctors, they give him treatments, about six  months—four,  five,  or  six  months,  whatever  it  was.    Ruthie  had  given  him  the  New Testament  on  tape  to  listen  to,  as  he  was  driving  that  four  to  five  hours  from  Lewisville  to Houston.

And about the 5th or 6th month, they told him, “Mr. Brock, we do not understand.  When you came in here, you had a certain level of cancer.  We had a half dozen other people that were about the same place that you were, and  you responded so awesomely to the treatments that we gave them the same exact treatment.  And without fail, they all died.  But you today have not a sign  of  cancer  left  in  your  body.    We  do  not  understand  this,  but  you’re  totally  healed.”  (Applause).

So Ed, of course,  was  a  very happy  person.  He  goes out and  gets in his  vehicle.   Now, he’s listening to the Word of God on tape going down there.  He goes out and gets in his vehicle.  He said, “I am so happy—no cancer!  They tell me don’t even come back for at least six months for another checkup.   I’m doing,  I’m just, it’s gone!”  So he said, “I reach over and say, ‘Lord, thank You!’  And I hit that play button on that tape recorder.  Thurman, you’ll never guess what that said:  ‘Is any sick among you?  let him call for the elders of the church, let them pray over him, and anoint him with oil, And the prayer of faith shall make the sick well.’”

He  said,  “Then  the  tape  recorder  stopped  on  its  own,  and  for  the  first  time  in  my  life,  I heard God speak to me in that authoritative voice.  HE said, ‘Ed, it was not MD Anderson that healed you.  It was ME.’”  Ed said, “Tears came into my eyes; I couldn’t see to drive.  I pulled off  to  the  side  of  the  road,  and  I  stopped.    And  I worshipped  and  praised  the  Lord,  until  I regained my composure, and then I drove home.”  (Applause)

Changed My Walk Forever

All of these experiences I’ve had the privilege to see the King do have changed my walk with  God  forever.    And  because  of  these  things  is  why  I  teach  a  Healing  School  in  the  Dallas-Fort Worth metroplex monthly.   And that’s  why  I  see people healed and  delivered  all the time.  And  I’m  going  to  tell  ya’ll  that  I  film  every  one  of  those  Healing  Schools  on  video  and  audio tape.  I have a web site that’s www.tlsm.org, The Living Savior Ministries.  And I have many ofthose  video  and  audio  tapes  listed  on  there,  and  I don’t  sell  anything  I  do.    I  give  everything away.

Any  of  you  that  wants  any  of  my  information,  if  you’ll  go  to  that  web  site,  you  can  get my phone number, my  address; and  anybody that wants anything  I  have, it’s free.  Now with a group this size, if you want, I won’t be able to send more than two DVDs and four or five CDs at a time, because I’m limited on what I have.  But if anybody wants anything, I will send anything you  want  to  you  free  and  post  paid.    Because  what  I  do  is  God,  and  HE’s  the  one  that  does everything.    I  don’t  do  nothing,  except  teach  His  Word  and  pray  for  the  sick,  and  HE  does  the rest of it.

And so I’ll make that blank check to you, since God says give, and it’ll be given to you.  HE’s given to me these wonderful things.  I’ll give to you anything that I have, and I want you to come up to where  I have come  up to.   Because  I  know God has  called me in these last days to teach  the  Body  of  Christ faith  and  how  to  walk  in  it,  so  we  can  overcome  the  enemy  that  our King defeated on the cross 2,000 years ago.  Praise the Lord!

Now  if  Bill  would  allow  me,  I  would  like  for  any  of  you  that  if  your  faith  is  at  a  level, and you need anything from God, I will be willing to pray the prayer of faith with you, according to Matthew 18:19:  Where our King says – this is our King talking to us, “Again I tell you, That if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask me for, I will do it for you.”  That’s for you and me, and if two of us agree, HE will do it.

So if  you need anything  from the  Lord right now,  I realize in a group like this, I  cannot possibly minister to each one of you.  But I would like for you to make sure that you know that your sins are all confessed.  That you believe God, and any kind of need you have, believe Him.  Believe Him, and if you will, I will pray the prayer of faith for you right now.  And as I pray the prayer  of  faith  for  you,  when  I  get  through,  I  want  you  to  say,  “Lord,  I  agree  with  that  man  of yours, and I’m your son or I’m your daughter, and I agree that what I’m believing You for right

39now  is  mine.”    And  if  you’ll  believe  with  no  doubt in  your  heart,  HE  will  do  great  and  mighty things.  HE will move through this crowd of people, and many of you will receive an awesome, awesome thing from the Lord today.  Can I pray that prayer of faith for them, Bill?


“Father, upon Matthew 18:19, the prayer of agreement:  Father, I want to thank You that You’re here today, that You’re the King of the Universe, that Your Son is here, and Your Holy Spirit’s  here.    Because  we’re  here  gathered  in  Your  name,  and  You  said, ‘If  just  two  of  us  are gathered in Your name, You’re here’ (Matthew 18:20).  So Lord, there’s thousands here in Your name.    So  Lord,  I  praise  You  for  these  promises.    Now  Lord,  for  each  one  of  these  people,  I don’t know their need, but You do.  So I ask You, Father, to meet their needs, whether they have back  problems  or  headaches  or  pains  or  whatever  their  need  is,  I  ask  you,  Father.    I  rebuke  the enemy  and  command  him  to  leave  these  people,  and  that  You  send  the  Holy  Spirit  to  heal  and restore  your  people  and  to  meet  all  their  needs  right  now,  in  the  name  of Jesus.   And  I  want  to thank You for doing it for each one that believes You, with no doubt in their heart, and I thank You.  It’s done, because it’s written in Your Word, in Jesus’ name.  AMEN.”   

Now if  you  can agree with the prayer for  yourself, just say out loud:  “Lord,  I  agree for myself, and I’m healed, or I’m delivered, or my needs are met, finances, or whatever they are.”  And  believe  Him,  and  then  continue  to  stay  in  faith.   “Don’t  cast  away  your  confidence  in  the Word” (Hebrews 10:35), and go thanking Him and praising Him, and many of you will receive great and awesome gifts and healings and things from our Lord!  HE is our King!  AMEN.

(About the author - Pastor Thurman Scrivner is the Pastor of The Living Savior Ministries (TLSM)

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